However, one common criticism of the Fediverse, when compared to peer-to-peer networks like Nostr, Scuttlebutt, and WireMin, is that it may eventually “recentralize,” similar to how client/server models tend to do. (There’re already signs of that with a few instances, but we’re still very far from them to be centers.).

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about 1 year ago

Use scuttlebutt it’s a P2P social media network (no need for servers or a cloud).

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over 1 year ago

Can you explain why Nostry is (apparently?) your favorite over scuttlebutt? Are the protocols similar? https://scuttlebutt.nz/.

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over 1 year ago

I just found this social network called scuttlebutt: https://scuttlebutt.nz/.

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over 1 year ago

Signal is an app for secure e2e communication. Maybe https://scuttlebutt.nz/ would be something similar to Reddit.

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over 1 year ago

I prefer the approach taken by Scuttlebutt[1] and nostr[2], where identity is a public key not tied to any particular server. However Mastodon is gaining a lot more adoption and seems to be good enough in practice. 1. https://scuttlebutt.nz/ 2. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr.

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almost 2 years ago

I love the idea. In terms of numbers and caps, I think going with Dunbar’s number of 150 might work best. Cal Newport makes a point about how in the early days of Facebook, it was essentially mirroring your real world social network. In fact, I remember how fun and innocent Facebook was in its early days. Perhaps the biggest shift in Facebook’s evolution is towards algorithmic feed optimisation and expansion into…

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almost 2 years ago

That is a feature not a bug its certainly more difficult to censor a poly-centric platform like #Mastodon (or any other service on the #Fediverse). Its part of the beuty of freedom. I could be wrong but it sounds like all of yoru concerns could be addressed that you simply don’t understand how federation works. No one can just take it all away, ever. And if you don’t want the poly-centric life style, go competely…

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almost 2 years ago

App might have been https://scuttlebutt.nz/ off the grid focused p2p messaging system.

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almost 2 years ago

I’d also recommend looking into anything to do with open source, peer-to-peer networks, end-to-end encryption, federation or platform co-operatives. For example: Matrix, Freenet, Cryptpad, Activity Streams, Mastodon, Aether, Scuttlebutt and Resonate. A whole plethora of services from video conferencing to online marketplaces to crowdfunding platforms to streaming platforms can be built using similar principles and…

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Edit: Scratch that, a more fleshed out and popular protocol that implements this P2P concept is Scuttlebutt: www.http://scuttlebutt.nz/ The most user friendly and refined client I’ve found that implements this protocol is Planetary: https://www.planetary.social/.

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almost 2 years ago

This looks pretty interesting. Do you know how it is different from similar systems that use the SSB protocol, like Manyverse for example?

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almost 2 years ago

Scuttlebutt exists. You have complete control over your data.

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about 2 years ago

Tools like Scuttlebutt (SSB) might be a good place to build community, not dependent on big social media companies. There is already research there about more distributed computing methods, with social and agricultural systems that are more holistic.

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about 2 years ago

RSS, Email, Personal sites, Fediverse, Secure Scuttlebutt are the way out.

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about 2 years ago

Git-ssb is really nice for decentralized hosting between friends. Uses Secure Scuttlebutt (https://scuttlebutt.nz/) and I’ve used it for over a year to collaborate on projects with people over ssb. I’m a bit scared of putting this link here, as the gateway is not super reliable, so I’ll ask people who are curious, to get ssb running locally and pull down the data if they want to look into it deeper. But…

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about 2 years ago

Try [Scuttlebutt](https://scuttlebutt.nz/), which is fully peer to peer. You’ll experience the limitations soon enough.

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over 2 years ago

Check out the decentralized git repo created by the Secure Scuttlebutt folks.

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over 2 years ago

Scuttlebutt is one such attempt and the best I’ve seen so far. However user discovery is currently awful and it’s extremely hard to get started. Also; using multiple devices doesn’t seem to work and I think that needs to be solved before it becomes useful. Maybe some kind of combination between peer to peer and federation could create a very very censorship resistant design.

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over 2 years ago

If you are looking for social media that supports Tor as a “first-class citizen”, I suggest Secure Scuttlebutt. Along with tor support, it is also open source, noncommercial, and fully decentralized/uncensorable.

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over 2 years ago

“A bulletin board that works on your phone” is actually a decent summary of gossip protocol based p2p systems like Secure Scuttlebutt (https://scuttlebutt.nz). Data can be transferred when devices are in near enough proximity to each other (share a network, bluetooth, whatever). Messages are cryptographically signed (and possibly encrypted) so you could use this as a way of maintaining (albeit slowly)…

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over 2 years ago